And it costs readers the books they want to read. Ebook thieves are stealing from writers and making it less likely that those series you like will ever be added to. Ever.

@lilithsaintcrow eBooks and video games were the two mediums I would still buy (video games because you're running untrusted code anyway; so why add to the risk with a dodgy torrent).

However with the recent Microsoft book store thing and all the issues with Amazon DRM ... I've started pirating books. If authors sold their books DRM free, I would gladly pay double to them personally. I try to buy their merch if they have podcast or support them some other way, but we need DRM free books.


Even though it is true that piracy is not the same as theft of physical goods, by committing piracy you are denying a livelihood to creators. Just because it is different doesn't make it less wrong.

The Hollywood machine and the software equivalent BSA do their share to drive people to piracy to be sure, but the actual effects of piracy cannot be ignored. It is because of bad people at multiple levels that we can't have nice things without DRM.



>we can't have nice things without DRM.

Music doesn't have DRM today. I buy tons of music off BandCamp. I prefer to buy the same game off HumbleBundle if I can get it DRM free. I'm a minimalist and have lived out of 2 bags for up to a year at a time, and I prefer ebooks to be able to keep notes. But I want to buy a book, not a license to a book that could go away. Give me a DRM free book store, and I will buy. No such service exists. @lilithsaintcrow

@djsumdog @msh @lilithsaintcrow Lots of Kobo books don't have DRM, and I think there's a way to check ahead of time to see if they do.

There are a number of other places you can get DRM free books as well: direct from some publishers (e.g. No Starch Press, Packt), direct from a lot of authors, or through less traditional storefronts like Smashwords and Opinions differ on this, but you could also buy the paperback, donate it, and pirate the ebook ver to pay authors w/out supporting DRM.

@djsumdog @msh @lilithsaintcrow Or you could use your library. Most of the ebooks have DRM, but you wouldn't be paying for it and the author still gets a cut of sales of ebook licenses to libraries. Granted, this one has a time limit on how long you can read the book for.


There are so many options out there to support creators without supporting DRM, and the onus is on content CONSUMERS to make the effort to do so as much as possible, not on the creators to volunteer so much labour.

Most creators hate DRM but publish through such channels as a necessary evil. If you actually support author's through DRM-free channels then creators will embrace those channels over the DRM profiteers.

@djsumdog @lilithsaintcrow

@djsumdog @msh @lilithsaintcrow not to mention that DRM straight up doesn't work. I can get any piece of media you want through privacy, DRM or not. Name anything at all and I can have a 1080p copy in minutes, with no ads, playable on any device I want. DRM *doesn't work*, the *only* thing it succeeds at is making content more annoying for people who *aren't* pirates. The only way is to make piracy the less convenient option, but media companies can't seem to figure that out because they'd rather nickle and dime you for every goddamn thing.

@sir I agree with you about the ultimate ineffectiveness of DRM, and the cluelessness of greedy media companies who rely on it. But they have long demonstrated their incompetence to "make piracy the less convenient option". Thus far piracy has done little more than make them double down on DRM and lobbying for oppressive IP laws.

We, as consumers, have to make the choice to use DRM free channels that compensate creators, sometimes at the expense of convenience.

@djsumdog @lilithsaintcrow

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